Welcome. Welcome to the your opinion doesn't matter podcast. I am one of the hosts, mr Lamont, and I'm here with my co-host. She's running and gunning. She's in, she's out. She's going forever be my co-host, even in spirit. Shirley, how are you doing?
Speaker 2:I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 1:I'm doing good. I'm doing good. We have a special guest.
Speaker 2:We got a guest.
Speaker 1:Can you tell the people who you are and what brand you here to tell everybody about Sure?
Speaker 3:I am Kia. I label myself as an empowerment tour. I also am the owner of perfectly floor tease, which is an apparel brand that is about making sure we have fashion that speaks, and I want my brand to be able to send a message and for you to read what the statement say and have a conversation.
Speaker 2:I got on one of her teas. I was gifted, gifted so I got on. So this is the name of your.
Speaker 3:Yes, perfectly floor tease. But perfectly floor is a remnant of what the brand is about, the entire mantra.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, okay. So, nakea, yes. So how did you come up with the name? Perfectly flawed.
Speaker 3:Great question. I came up with the name because I felt like people, the culture, men, women are kind of walking around with masks on not being themselves, pretending to be okay and not okay. So I was kind of going through that as a part of my story at one point in my life, wearing a mask, not okay and then I decided you know what perfectly flawed. Why don't we start something that speaks to imperfection? You know, we have a lot of things in the world talking about perfection and how to be all together, but what happens if you're not together? How do you still be okay? So that's what essentially birthed the brand, that's the fabric that wove it and created it. That those feelings.
Speaker 2:Okay, any any one particular like situation that may do say, hey, I'm flawed and it's, and it's okay, sure.
Speaker 3:As an independent nurturer. That's code for single mom. I have been doing that for many years but, I, like the same better than single mom independent nurtures. With the role I was in and it was, it was a heavy roll. What do you think about that?
Speaker 1:What is an independent nurturer?
Speaker 3:Single mother independently nurturing her child, without any co-parents.
Speaker 1:That's new. I never heard that one. I made it up.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, I designed the name. I'm big into words, as you can see. That's my brand is about words, okay. So my personality is about words. The birds matter, okay.
Speaker 3:So I needed to have something that felt different than single mother. It just sounds so done trot and like single mama. No, okay, I'm an independent nurturing nurturing a human being to be great and that's what's my role. But it was a heavy role, right, it was a taxing role, not having co-parents and it was a lot. So I put on a mask a lot of days and was like, okay, I put a mask for my child. It seemed okay, but I was not okay. So I began to start therapy. Actually, that's what catapulted me into a great space to start the brand start therapy. Debunk the myth that therapy is not for black people, because it is and that's not a journey.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that's not a journey. Therapy is therapeutic. No one no one, so I pulled you, I pulled you. I never heard that independent nurturing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just thought of it like some years ago, when my son was like 14 or 15.
Speaker 2:So did you have him young or Not?
Speaker 3:too young. I would say it was like early, late twenties. Okay, late twenties yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's funny, me and Lamont had a conversation earlier about nurture. I was telling him that I feel like I and not to get away from your t-shirt but I didn't feel like a nurture. I felt like as a single mom. Young, I was 16. I felt like we were going through survival. So to hear you say nurture.
Speaker 3:I don't think. I became a nurturer until later, so yeah, I think, but do you really feel like that? I think you're always nurturing, no matter what you're going through.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but but like we're two different ages, I don't think I didn't know what I was doing at 16.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm trying to figure me out.
Speaker 2:I just want to get some Pampers and some milk and oh, now you got to go to school, that's what they say at five. So it was like two different worlds.
Speaker 3:But I mean, I think that an independent nurturer.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And I think I champion you in the same way. I don't think I've always been a nurturer. My son and myself we sort of grew up together, so he's grew up in my imperfections, and so one of the things I started before perfectly for was a t-shirt company called kids operations, and it was with my son and it was a way, as I was parents and to say I don't need a baby sitter and I could still follow my passion. So I was making t-shirts for kids at the time, okay, and my son was like my top model. That was circa maybe 15 years ago, but that's kind of what really kind of jumpstarted me, just being interested in words and t-shirts, okay, and then morphed into something different when perfectly for T started.
Speaker 2:So you said words do matter, mm? Hmm, because growing up it was like six and so on. I break my bones and words never hurt me.
Speaker 3:But words do hurt. I only learned that from my child. Actually my child was about seven, okay, and we say that sang that nursery rhyme Six and so on. I break my bones. But one day my son came to me and said no, but words do.
Speaker 3:No, he said words do hurt, mommy, and I said so. You know, like I said, my son, like I said, but my son has been a catapult of me starting and growing and being on a beautiful journey. In some amazing ways Because I thought of it the same way Six and so on, I break my bones, I break my bones.
Speaker 2:Oh, we made it not hurt, right, but it did hurt but he said to me it does hurt, mm.
Speaker 3:Hmm, words do hurt. It made me look at it from a different lens.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:So you started watching what you were saying. Definitely, I don't always get it right and I still don't always get it right, but he had just really minded my words. Therapy has taught me how to reframe my words, because words do matter. What you say tends to manifest, so no, it's gonna say so.
Speaker 1:Your therapy was for for yourself, Definitely.
Speaker 3:Yes, okay.
Speaker 1:What did you have to? What did you learn about yourself?
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, I learned that I overthink. I learned that I'm flawed. I learned that you know, I'm a great mom. Anyway, although I may not think some days I'm great, I learned so much. I'm still learning. I think therapy is a forever learning thing.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:So I don't think that it ever stops. You ever stopped learning about yourself, so I'm still growing. I still go to therapy.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right. So now words hurt. Your son just hit you with the words hurt and words affirm. Let's not just say that, yes, that part right Words are fun, Words hurt, and words are fun. And what said what? What did you? What made you? When they say, hey, I'm gonna put this on a power, just everybody.
Speaker 3:when you walk, you see people with shirts or clothes on and you're staring at that clothes. You're reading their clothes. Right, I thought about just my personality. I'm an Amber, so sometimes I want to talk. Sometimes I don't stop unpacking. So that means extroverted and I'm charged by people and sometimes I'm very introverted and I need to go with them. Okay, so I'm both, I'm not just one.
Speaker 1:So it's a combination Okay, is that your word, or is?
Speaker 3:it. That's a real. That's a real. Yeah, that's a real term.
Speaker 1:Okay, no, I'm not, no, no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2:I don't make them on a but that's a real term. Amber, yes, amber, amber.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I feel like if the introvert doesn't want to speak, their fashion can speak for them and to them. Okay, and that's what I wanted to do.
Speaker 2:So most people have the idea in their head and it never like they don't do the work. What made you do the work?
Speaker 3:I'm still doing the work. Okay, so I just it, just. I my the better thing is what made me? The better question may be what made me start? And it was that space of feeling like I don't see what I want, so I'm going to create what I want, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, all right.
Speaker 1:How long you had this business.
Speaker 3:So I want to say at least 10 years, but really I want to say most of those years it was a hobby because I didn't have business systems and really like great stuff. So it was a lot of visions, a lot of just, you know, word of mouth kind of thing. But now I think in the last couple of years I've been taking it a lot more seriously and my LLC some years ago. So I wasn't doing that at first I was just kind of like hammer selling my t-shirts at the trunk, kind of thing, but I started getting official.
Speaker 1:Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice.
Speaker 2:So how do you get yourself out there?
Speaker 3:I'm still slow walking. I'm really still on social media platforms, which is Instagram. That's big platforms. I'm dabbling with TikTok a little bit.
Speaker 3:I'm not on there as much, but my community is really on Instagram and my brand is about more than just selling a t-shirt. Like I said, I'm an empowerment, or so I'm trying to create community on my social media. So, just more than you just clicking to say, hey, I want a t-shirt, we're really having conversations, dialogue. We're talking all things mental health. We're talking what could make you laugh, what could make you cry. How do we win together? We win is one of our mantras. So it's bigger than just you buying a shirt for me. It's really about you becoming a part of my community.
Speaker 1:Nice, nice.
Speaker 2:So I see you have together, we win. Yes, what was the inspiration behind that?
Speaker 3:Because I feel like together we really do win. I think as a community African American community we always the metaphors with crabs and a barrel or women that we can't get along or we saw eyeing, or you know checking people. I feel like we could really win if we take all of that out and say, hey, you got something I could give, I got something you can give. We winning right now together, right now.
Speaker 1:Right, right, collaborating on the spot.
Speaker 2:That's winning, so I believe in the win. Okay, okay, and well, we already got to perfectly floor it. Yes, and what? What are the statements you have?
Speaker 3:Love is dope Okay, it's one. Love is another. Okay, I have no mask, no makeup, no flaws. It's another. Okay, no weapon formed against me, but that's the Bible. So that don't really belong to me, but I put it on the T-shirt.
Speaker 2:Right, right Right.
Speaker 1:That's the big lead that don't belong to me.
Speaker 3:Specifically, god about to sue you. Dope is a lifestyle, so every statement is like a fabric and tapestry of my own personal story. Okay, so when you wear it, you embrace that. It becomes your story. That's really the goal and the mission, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, so when you so, you get the idea right. So now you have to mess with fonts.
Speaker 3:I don't do that part. You don't know, I'm a creative, so I'm just like this is what I want. I got a people on my team like a designer, so I this is my vision. You make it come, come to life.
Speaker 2:So your your logo right, so the people your logo. Pf Perfectly floor, that's it so you made up your own logo, so you did it, or you just gave it to me.
Speaker 3:I gave it to my designer to say, hey, I want this is what the look I want. I want it to look flawed, I want the look to look rough. So I just give them some ideas, some light ideas. We've been working together so long that it's always a win.
Speaker 2:Okay, so that's your your people, yes, your tea people yes, all right All right All right. When did t-shirts get big Cause? All of a sudden they just started popping up and I shoulda did my research.
Speaker 3:But Like what you been doing them for a while, that's the thing I got stuck. So that's like how long ago was that? So my son was doing it Right and I was like at least 10, 15 years ago, right, right.
Speaker 2:So he then he went to the military. Then I did my thing and then I just got stagnant. And it's funny because I had 2014,. My friend asked me to be in a pop-up shop and I did everything. I did all the platforms and I got the bags. I got everything. Everybody was coming to my table. So one of the girls took me to the side. She said you know, I came straight to your table cause you got it together, and then I never Wow so that wasn't motivating enough to keep going.
Speaker 3:What got in your way? It was life.
Speaker 2:And procrastination. That's real. What was it? It?
Speaker 1:was just one item. What was it?
Speaker 2:I had a few. I ain't trading more than buying a little bike seat.
Speaker 3:No more about that. I don't want to say what the days are. I got to buy it.
Speaker 2:But it's funny because it's a daily in my head. So, like they always say, if it keeps coming back, then it's for you, but it's just it's sheer laziness.
Speaker 3:Cause you have a thing about partnering with somebody or like doing like project based, maybe not like a full line, but like this month or May we pop up every year, so it starts taxing.
Speaker 2:I thought about it, but I don't want to. I'm not confrontational. I don't same thing with the women, can't get along.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 2:I don't want to get my idea.
Speaker 3:You want to be in a safe place where somebody's not stealing bike.
Speaker 2:But I was listening to Issa Radio the day about like letting people in this person could do this, let them do it that or whatever. That's one of the people that I look up to.
Speaker 3:Yes, I love this. I'm rooting for everybody black, just like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So okay, so yeah, he makes your font, so you just have the creative and he yeah, so we're a team.
Speaker 3:So that's, he's a part of my team, so he does the graphic, the font. I give the idea, this is the word I'm looking for, and he flips it back and say this is what we're gonna do, this is what we're gonna go with, and I yes or no. So I'm the yes or no at the end. But ultimately he's my graphic designer.
Speaker 2:So I ask so what floor made you say, hey, if there is one, hey, I wanna do this. Or a floor you struggled with?
Speaker 3:Oh, man, a floor that I struggled with is overthinking. Okay, overthinking I can. It could be to the point where I overthink and talk myself out of something. So I talk myself out of just starting, or I just overthinking, and it just becomes race and thoughts which then distract you. So that's not my struggle with overthinking. I overthink this parking space before I got here Like oh my God, and the parking space is open.
Speaker 3:I'm like I'm gonna get in. So yeah, overthinking is something that I've been on the journey, trying to figure out. I haven't, you know, mastered it, but I do overthink. So that's, I would say, if that's a floor, that's one of mine. Okay, all right all right.
Speaker 1:What does the shirt say? Together we win, Together we win yes, yeah, I could say that's a floor of mine, Because Because you try, you know you would want to win with somebody. Then it doesn't work.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's one thing too, and I see you know, so you get disappointed in.
Speaker 1:No, you ruin the relationship. Oh wow, yes, you ruin the relationship, you know, and you have good intentions, but the other person could fall on the bad end of your intentions but like, and then I see those arguments but you had your intentions was for us to win, and then it does fall as well.
Speaker 3:That happened to me a couple of times. Yeah, that can happen. That's a true thing that goes on every day.
Speaker 1:So how do you get? Over that Like you, you, you, you, you, you, you. It's hard to get over it, especially the person is dealing with it because they're going to keep on there with reminding you. But then it's like, even though you have a pure heart, you be like listen, I'm doing this for us, I want us, we can do it. And then if it don't, once people put a time in and the money in, then then then you owe them, you owe them blood.
Speaker 3:Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So the time you can't get back, Right, but then it's like they're not going to have. They don't have that same kind of thought that together we win. You have to bring that to their attention.
Speaker 3:So I feel like you know, when I hear you talk about it, it sounds like you're talking about alignment and it's it's hard to sometimes know whether you're lying. I think prayer you know I'm a praying woman, so I think definitely praying first to see if this is the alignment, because sometimes I think you know we could be on the same page but not on the same page. But you're saying like I might have this idea. You've seen, like your Ford, I've worked into that a lot and as a creative it's frustrating.
Speaker 3:Because it's like I thought you were then Right.
Speaker 2:Well, you're not as hungry as I am. Not only hungry, because they see you and then they see the work and it's like you know, it's hard finding people that really love your baby.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but then your vision.
Speaker 1:But the thing about it is they're not going to love it more than you are, right, so they're not going to they be like it's yours. I'm just here for the ride, right? So then you know, it's like that's when it's like contracts and it's together we win.
Speaker 3:It's not as simple as it sounds.
Speaker 1:Together, you win Even. Maybe you got a better chance with your family, maybe not even your family but I say to my stranger so you better off together. We win by paying people.
Speaker 2:I want to say something too Far as support. Who's like your biggest supporter Is like. Do you have like returning customers? Great question.
Speaker 3:I guess, support from people that I don't know more than people that I do know, wow, yeah, yeah, that's crazy, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I say it's better to pay people, people that you know they are going to come. I think they will come when, like the, you know, like the party's already started. You know what I'm saying next to you, you know when it blows up, right.
Speaker 2:Oh they there.
Speaker 1:They there now I know, but before that, they just want to see you grow. But they're not going to, they're going to break. You know they don't want to. You know, jump into that, you know double that.
Speaker 2:Dispectators though, so I agree with you. But I want to say something like what's your price point? Like the sweatshirt, so sweatshirts can run.
Speaker 3:Thank, you, by the way. Oh, you're welcome. So sweatshirts are anywhere from like 45 to 55, depending on the fit's glitter. I do puff print. Okay, we do embroidery. So when we do specifications, the price kind of changes just because it's like one of a kind type of thing and we put some special okay into it. T-shirts are 27. Typically 27. If I do something like fancy we'll raise the price a little bit, but typically that's the price, so it's pretty reasonable.
Speaker 2:Nice price point. But what do you say when? Excuse me, you have a nice price point, I think you're fair. Now you got people with your black owned right. Yes, and between you and Gucci. I don't think Gucci, but like, how do you feel? Like you feel about us as a people going to spend with the Europeans than try to build us up?
Speaker 3:I feel like people are more apt to go outside and spend whatever the price point is, with no question, but I feel like sometimes you do deal with an audience of black people that are, like you know a finesse, like okay, why can't I get this for 30?, why can't I get it for 20?, but you don't go on Gucci or Louis Vuitton.
Speaker 2:Exactly, you gotta do them down. How does that make you feel as a designer, as a, you know, a small business owner?
Speaker 3:I think I had to grow in that area before it used to really anger me, you know. But now I'm at this point like you're not my audience If you got to worry about lowering my price, you really not my audience. So all money is not good money is what I've learned. Oh yeah, so I'm not. I don't need your money, Right, If that's the type of energy you bring in to buy it. I like people. That's just like I like it. What's the cash at? What's?
Speaker 1:how about pay, for example? Yeah, they want you to lure it to the company. Yes, when it comes to the whole bunch and it's not that I don't give people.
Speaker 3:As you can see, I give or I give back. So I'm not wanting to like that. But if you have to like, do a whole lot of questioning as to then I might not be your audience.
Speaker 1:You might not be my audience and that's fine.
Speaker 3:So, but I had to get there.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know I wasn't always there, right, so come on, get there. So what did you do in the beginning of your business that you were like it's not working for me? And then you kind of like At the shift or something Right.
Speaker 3:Packaging. I'm big on aesthetics, so I like things very beautiful. Okay, so, as I first started, I was spending a lot of time on the bow, the sticker the prettiness the thank you cards, the this, the that, the stickers on the refrigerator, all that came with your package, right, and it necessarily wasn't in my favor. You know, sometimes it was more expensive than it, than what you purchased.
Speaker 2:But doesn't that come with branding and putting yourself off? I?
Speaker 3:think it was good at first, but as I began to grow it wasn't sustainable.
Speaker 1:So, when I would get orders it wasn't cost effective.
Speaker 3:That's the part that's hard as a business owner, because some of the perks that you have when you want a smaller scale, right, you want to keep, but as you start scaling up you can't Right. Okay, all right. I agree so it hurts me when I like even now, sometimes, I'll you know, when we package stuff for people, it's not as exquisite as it used to be, as kind of we, simple, but it's still pretty.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:But when people tell me like, oh, I just threw the business card away, oh, I just threw the thing, I just threw the stick at my sister she just brought something. I was so excited Like you got my box. She was like, yeah, through the card and garbage.
Speaker 2:I was like are business cards still a thing now?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:They are people. What's a have, Because people are acts but honestly I hate it when they acts too. But I was just at an event We've been doing, like the dot thing and the hello and the bling. I think those are all cool, but now that I've been to that event I don't know where those people are in my contact Right right. Because they formulate in your contact.
Speaker 2:But I guess it's still worse because the first thing they gonna act is for it. When you don't have it, you feel like ah.
Speaker 3:I feel like such an idiot and it's not that expensive either. Yeah, I got the dot. I'm gonna look into from this event. I went to yesterday or Thursday women's day. For women's day Many people had the dot card.
Speaker 1:Happy international.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Same to you, thank you.
Speaker 1:So people just scan it.
Speaker 3:So I think I have to come up with a system. Ok, and maybe take a picture of who you were before. I scanned that into my phone, because now I don't remember. Like, have these people up there.
Speaker 2:Have you ever thrown your shirt to a celebrity? No, I've never done that ever.
Speaker 3:I got out of thinking like Speaking of inter-existence.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Because I'm like who want it, you should have it and you should have a unisex on it all the time. But I'm just giving it.
Speaker 3:That's a good thing. Thank you for coming together with me when I need it. For it, yes free game.
Speaker 2:Just have something like in a large. You know what I mean? Unisex or with a red or even neon, whatever, like, something like this just happened.
Speaker 3:I never thought of that Like so, I never even really thought of a celebrity. I've just been local to regular people. T-shirts with green bin.
Speaker 2:But even we're a little. I remember wearing Sesame Place t-shirts.
Speaker 3:T-shirts always are Well I remember even learning about Supreme, a little bit like doing my research, as I was learning about t-shirts and All those companies and Babe and you know, my son educated me. He was like Babe. I think they threw Biggie a shirt.
Speaker 2:And a Skotty soda and they became big. Ok, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I had a shirt line before too years ago. Wow, it was old school slang. They used to have different slangs on different shirts.
Speaker 3:But yeah but I you want me to bring it back, not really.
Speaker 2:I don't know that's the thing is going on. It doesn't come to mind once in a while.
Speaker 1:Yeah, people telling me. But it's like I learned so much even from watching Shark Tank that you have almost that thing SKUs too much. I have like 10 to 20 of them.
Speaker 3:Like different slangs. I think I had too many too. I think I have too many I need to stick to three and push it If I come back with it, but I'll come back Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like so spread.
Speaker 1:It'll be that one catchy one, yeah, the one that I'm not sharing right now. I'll bring it back when you bring yours out All right, so we're going to talk about that.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, all right. And we could all do a pop up.
Speaker 2:That's it, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 1:I'll pop up my game. That's what I'm really pushing.
Speaker 3:I think that's what we struggle with. I love that Because I feel like when we go to dinner or my family functions. I'm the one that doesn't like when people are to the side talking, so I like a game that brings everybody together. We're getting to learn each other. So is it dicey, what kind of questions.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's different topics Like, um, we have sex and lies. That's a good one. That's a very good one.
Speaker 3:We have a couple's game.
Speaker 1:No, it's a group game. It's a game and it has your favorite thing that you all indulge with earlier. You can play it, lose it, take shots.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about drinks.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about alcoholic beverages. These ladies are messing with my sobriety right now.
Speaker 2:Some tequila, some tequila, loosing up the, but I'm fighting the power.
Speaker 1:Now I'm good, I'm two years, no drink.
Speaker 3:That's amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the game is great. The game is great.
Speaker 2:Name it the game again.
Speaker 1:Your opinion doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:Act the name of the show.
Speaker 1:You can get it at wwwyodmcom, and what's your website for yours?
Speaker 3:So I don't have a website, so you can follow me on Instagram, which is pfismfranktsts. Also on Facebook, perfectly, floor T spelled out. And on TikTok it's pfts.
Speaker 2:All right. So your slogan, your mission statement you have one of those?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's. My slogan is fashion that speaks to you, for you and for you OK, all right.
Speaker 2:And what do you want to say to the people? Oh wow, Regarding your tees.
Speaker 3:I want to say that everybody has a story. Everybody has some sort of chapter, story, history that is woven into their lives. So we want you to. I love for you to use my t-shirt to tell your story. It's some saying that I know I must have. That represents a part of your story journey and I love for you to purchase it and wear it and share it and just let it minister to you for real.
Speaker 2:So take six and take a picture.
Speaker 3:And be my model, prefer it.
Speaker 1:Tag her body, tag me in your face, hook it up, hook it up.
Speaker 3:Everybody tags me all the time, so that's fun and I like to tell people because everybody, I don't want you to feel a pressure, to feel like you got to be my top model once you buy a shirt.
Speaker 2:So it's just voluntary if you want to have the picture I don't like pics, not a picture. Yeah, I'm on the parkette.
Speaker 3:So can I tag you?
Speaker 2:in yeah, you can tag me, you can tag me. I like that commission. I think I'm all right today. Oh yeah always I did the gold, the jade, the gold, the match. Yes, stain socks Together we win.
Speaker 1:That's a metallic year.
Speaker 2:Thanks, thank you All right.
Speaker 1:Yes, do get out there and support the brand Support for B-Floor Tees.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, yes. Share with a friend's hella friend.
Speaker 1:So I've been hearing some reviews of the Bob Marley movie and one protest maybe another slight protest is when they saying the lead actor who's playing Bob Marley, he's from England and a lot of Jamaicans is not happy with that.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing One of the brothers sold the rights to the studio so they have full reign on who plays. I mean, that's their money. He sold the rights. I mean the brother sold the rights to the movie company that was sponsoring the film, so they're going to put in the actor that they feel that's going to portray Bob Marley or a respectable actor. And the thing is with the movie. When I was reading I did some research. Some of the musicians were like grandkids and kids of the original whalers or people that were participated.
Speaker 2:So and then they brought money into Jamaica. They used Jamaicans, but the thing is, people that were non-Jamaican. There's a little description in the Jamaicans and with the people that was forcing. It was a little but you had to be really listening to it, but I learned a lot.
Speaker 2:I didn't know A few things. I did not know about Bob Marley. I did not know Bob Marley's dad was white. I didn't know he had so many kids. While I was doing some research, he was doing a lot of good. I saw what he was doing, but once again, once we start getting together as a people, that upsets the other people and that's what he was doing and I learned about Siaga and the two prime ministers, or whatever the case may be, there were odds. One was working with here and the other one was trying to bring some social change and justice.
Speaker 2:And then I really listened to the music. The music was like all I know from back then was One Love. That's all I know. That's it, that's all.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:And what's that? Before that, I actually been listening to the music. One Woman, no oh One.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, no One, no Cry, I promise you. I do know that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I promise you Any Y'all know a good five Right, Come on now.
Speaker 1:Don't do Bob Marley's dad All right. So let's say One Woman.
Speaker 3:No Cry. One Love, that's two. Come on, give me a three.
Speaker 2:I didn't know. The third thing I didn't know the assassination on his family, the time yeah, that was the first one. That's what I just watched the documentary on the first one.
Speaker 3:Oh, no, I mean I watched the documentary on his. Oh, the first documentary.
Speaker 2:Ok, yeah, that was crazy how no one died and the concert what it represented, and then he actually left Jamaica. Because here I am trying to change for you guys and you guys are running up in my house.
Speaker 3:I keep going for trade. So where did he go? He went to England, went to England. Oh, wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:He went to England and that's it. And the kids, some kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know. So what else was interesting? His wife, she knew him with different women and she was so I don't know. I'm not going to say she was OK with it, Right, she didn't put up a fuss with it and she actually she was like you know.
Speaker 2:And she benefited.
Speaker 1:She to her, her soul. She probably didn't benefit, Maybe financially, but I heard that there would be some times Like there were some times that like, say, who have women in his room and like stayed up, get a hostile.
Speaker 2:And she'll call her.
Speaker 1:She'll call her. And she'll come in and get them out. Wow, Because she just knew it was an arrangement. At this point to me it's like you know, you know. I mean I don't know if it was an arrangement. I mean, if she stayed, it's an arrangement.
Speaker 2:We are ranging things, I mean she went out there and did her thing too Well.
Speaker 3:that's what I saw in the documentary that she was pregnant. I guess Bob Marley was traveling and then she shared that she was having a baby. I don't know which child it was.
Speaker 2:Oh, I didn't think she had one baby, she had an extra finger Right.
Speaker 3:And she said it was like the father. The father had this comes from her father. And then Bob Marley went on a tour and seen the father and notice he ain't had an extra finger.
Speaker 2:And came back and was like what girl you tell me how Right. But the thing is, you have to realize, at that point she had accepted about one or two of his. You got messy when she did it.
Speaker 3:Why is it the same thing? You know why that is. Why are you getting?
Speaker 1:messy when she did it, but women is not supposed to do that.
Speaker 3:Oh, here we go, there we go, so do men.
Speaker 2:Welcome back to me.
Speaker 3:Well, I think I get why he might have been a part of it, because it is religion and they in his religion. I understand that they can have multiple women.
Speaker 1:Right, but I mean bigger than that. This in general, okay, in general men does men do it because you know it's no real method to the madness, but when y'all do it it's vicious.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's a level of like.
Speaker 1:I like you a lot In order for y'all to do that.
Speaker 2:I mean we had this conversation before when we're more invested, when we cheat.
Speaker 3:Hmm, which mean?
Speaker 2:we have to like you.
Speaker 3:Okay, you know, we're not going to, we're not going to cheat.
Speaker 2:We're not going to randomly cheat.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, even if y'all was the you know like even if those drinks would push y'all to do it as quick as men, this is the thing.
Speaker 2:He you know what I realize and you have to know your man like constantly asking him if he was married, he wasn't saying yes or no, he liked women. You know a lot of women. You know he had the hey. Yeah, let's get to this. So the Damien, not Damien's mother, damien Mollie, that Cindy's, I don't see. I forgot her last name and no starts with a, b. She was having an issue also about she, the timeline she was in his life. You don't get to be part of the story as a side chick, right Like, and then I had. I was like, oh, that was so close, he was part of her life and you're a side chick.
Speaker 3:You don't ride the limo at the.
Speaker 2:You don't ride the limo, you, you you get the benefit and then he didn't have a will which leaves you open to all types of probate. You go to probate when you don't have it together. He should have had one, a segway's 30 million. She, she was good.
Speaker 3:She, she divided it, his kids got she that was nice, yeah, yeah, I mean she was well, she was already.
Speaker 2:Those kids were in her house. Oh, right, okay, okay, but still she could have been, like she could have. But honestly, what like reciprocity, like we talked about before, like where would you go? Those are his kids you know like you.
Speaker 2:You got a nice chunk. You know you living in Ghana. He adopted your first daughter. He accepted your, your kid in between. But the thing with him is he loved freely. So I wanted to ask the question, right. Whitman General question. He liked what he liked and he felt like it was okay to sleep with these women and make babies with them. I'm protected. I mean, does he get a pass cause he's rich?
Speaker 3:Oh and no, I don't know. My stance is a little different.
Speaker 2:And mine is too.
Speaker 3:Like I don't like to share. I was only child, so Sharon is not camera for me. No, no, no, my child Listen. But I just feel like I believe in a covenant of being committed to relationships. So I don't really understand having multiple people and me being okay with it. But you know, to each his own Right.
Speaker 2:And I'm not saying she was okay with it, but you got to realize with men it's all about control. I'm sure he has a wife. Women are going to get. We're like as a wife I would look at him guy like wow he's looking, but that doesn't mean I have to go with him Right. Right, like when men think it's like so visual, like damn.
Speaker 1:I will have you know like they done, picture it all Right, she can give me head just that and the third, like what, lamar, this question is for you?
Speaker 2:What makes you say, hey, it's just going to be in here and I don't have to, I don't have to act out on it?
Speaker 1:Oh, for me, you know I changed you know. I mean I'm engaged, going to get married Probably, hopefully, this year. I've been staying out for the last two years. Okay, but um so, congratulations Thank you.
Speaker 1:You just got to come to the conclusion, like, I've been there, done that, you must have a lot of experience already. So it's like you know why, why now? And then also, what's the? What's the risk I'm taking, meaning that I could lose my family, you know? I mean like is it really, you know, just go sleeping with her and then lose? Then things can come back and I get caught. No, no, no, it's not worth it.
Speaker 2:It's not worth it.
Speaker 1:You got to the ends, got to justify the means.
Speaker 2:But what if the guy come in the relationship and like, listen, I'm just always going to have a taste for other women. Yeah, Women that. Accept that.
Speaker 3:Let me ask you all questions so I'm like I got to get to the root. Then my, my thing is like the why you don't have to, you don't have to.
Speaker 2:Why him?
Speaker 3:Yeah, like I feel like to me, a man that needs a multitude of women needs to do some shadow work and some therapy to find out why do you need, what's your mommy issue, what's your mommy wound? Why?
Speaker 1:do you need? Why got to be a mommy issue?
Speaker 3:I mean I, I, that doesn't necessarily have to be it could be right, but I just feel like, why do you need what's what's driving you needing more than one what's driving? I think I have some friends is like that and I think it could be an addiction.
Speaker 1:It could be an addiction, it could be like something these starters, like a fire that's inside of them that they just see something that, oh wow, nice, I like it, I want it.
Speaker 2:You know.
Speaker 1:But now it's like you know, y'all saying y'all have standards and you know, would y'all if you had an option dealing with a you have a faithful broke man, he got a 10% chance of cheating on you 10%. Or you or you dealing with a man who's like 75% chance he's going to cheat on you, but he's rich.
Speaker 2:I don't want no chance. I don't want to deal with no chance, I want you. I want you to have some self control because I have to have self control.
Speaker 1:But if you have to pick a bar after work.
Speaker 2:I have control when I see a nice looking doctor or pass me or he first with me. I have to have self control.
Speaker 1:So I want you to have the same level of self control. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on we we.
Speaker 2:We visit this topic already, oh, yeah, I think we go here all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but no you said when you go into a bar, right, oh, here we go. When you go into a bar, you said you, what did you? What's the words you just used? Self control. Self control Meaning what? How far would this control go? Oh, what do you mean?
Speaker 2:I'm just talking about. We're talking about marriage, yeah, and commitment and relationships.
Speaker 1:No, no, don't run from this you go into the bar.
Speaker 2:He said you don't rise, you go into a bar.
Speaker 1:This question is going to be for you too.
Speaker 2:OK when we go into a bar, I have to take a shot of my liquor.
Speaker 3:Yes, go, take a shot. You know, take a shot of your liquor. He said do what you got to do, because you're the answer to this.
Speaker 1:I got you OK, so now here's the question. Like you know, you saying that, what's the words you used? Again, self control.
Speaker 3:Self control right so what is it?
Speaker 1:What is OK? When is it out of your control?
Speaker 2:At what point when I take it out of my imagination.
Speaker 1:No, so hold on. The gentleman is talking to you. And then what? What do you mean?
Speaker 2:Like, if his chest looks good, I'm already on top of his chest in my mind right. Like, just like you, like you, like you, men. Visualize. Sorry, we visualize also, Don't think we just be like, oh he's cute. No, we done so you have sex in our mind.
Speaker 1:So hold on, nakeah, nakeah, I'm asking you a question when you have a man, do you have sex in your mind?
Speaker 3:when you, when you're going out with your girl to the bar and your man is at home, probably with the kids, Hypothetically I think I'm a what they call that, like something sapient, like I'm attracted to not just the physical, to intellect, for me as first. So I don't necessarily look and be like he, fine, I'm looking at what I'm listening, what's coming out of my head, so that's more attractive and that might send me into a bow.
Speaker 1:So hold on, it's a name to me, so it sounds like there is a little bit of weakness in your, your little swagger.
Speaker 2:Oh, we all fall short. A flawed, oh shoot.
Speaker 1:And if you all fall short, why do you want this perfect man?
Speaker 3:No, I don't want a perfect man.
Speaker 2:What's a perfect man?
Speaker 1:You said you don't want your man to cheat at all.
Speaker 2:I would like him not to cheat that doesn't make him perfect.
Speaker 3:If he's monogamous, he's just monogamous.
Speaker 1:No, I think that's what she is. No, no, no, no, no. Don't put this on me. You said, you're not giving a 10.
Speaker 2:And in the 75, I'm like I would like it to be none but you said but we're talking about I'm generalizing Bob Marley, like what was it like with him? Obviously it was like I like what I see and I'm going to get. It was seven kids in right.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Whatever the number is, it's a lot of. It's a lot of child's mothers there. You know what I mean, right, and there's just so much that comes with messing with that whole unprotected sex thing. It's a lot.
Speaker 1:Look at your boy, nick Cannon. He has like 11, 12 kids right now, man, but there's these women.
Speaker 2:No, we don't even know what. But I would hope he, like in a perfect world, like get some gynecologist tests and see what's going on with these women.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like it's herpes.
Speaker 3:That's forever right HPV.
Speaker 2:HPV AIDS. It's HPV.
Speaker 3:It's one of the mother, things that come with sexual transmittance. It's a sexual yeah.
Speaker 2:So like.
Speaker 3:But I think that people always just talk about. They don't talk about the unprotected sex and the risks. I think, even as we're in 2024, I think people are still wilding out and, oh, I know, I know people.
Speaker 2:I know people.
Speaker 3:But people still, on the other hand, are getting sexual transmittance, are getting AIDS. You know all that stuff is still happening. So I think it's important for a man to think, or a woman to think about when I'm stepping out, the risk that can be happening, that and I got.
Speaker 2:We had discussion before. Sex is spiritual. You just take on all types Unprotected even if it's not unprotected, protected. Won't you let somebody inside of you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but so you say the spiritual to y'all. So what is it to men?
Speaker 3:Physical.
Speaker 1:Because you say when he's in.
Speaker 3:That's all you did. He's in. Jacqueline, I've had this conversation with you before it's inward, we're inward, and that's why you guys get so upset because we're literally letting somebody inside of us.
Speaker 1:So you're like I'm going to say the dumping grounds. Basically, Now, I'm not the dumping grounds. You're the one that that's when we said something before. You said no, that's OK the dumping grounds.
Speaker 2:He said that he said he knows when. What do you say? Which was wild so far in my test and text week? One of the shows he's like yo being with a corpse is wild as sex. He said that some women you would feel like a corpse.
Speaker 1:Because you feel like you're not. It's a feeling You're not, they're not in it. They're not. No, they didn't.
Speaker 2:It's like they are Dumping grounds, which is what you're saying.
Speaker 1:The dumping grounds is like. They're like a corpse, Meaning like See young ladies.
Speaker 2:This is why.
Speaker 1:The older you are, the older you get, the less vibrant you are. Oh wow.
Speaker 3:OK. So they need Viagra for women, like the energy level is low, no, he's talking about elasticity, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like they not doing enough cables.
Speaker 1:They not doing something, they not eating enough broccoli? I don't know? Ok, it's not juicy, I mean, I'm just I'm trying to understand what you're saying I'll jump in the pocket. It's dry.
Speaker 3:It's dry the piece of dry thing, if you compare.
Speaker 1:If you compare an older woman to a younger woman, the man is always going to want to go with the younger woman. Because, Because it's a different feeling. It's a different feeling and the younger woman is not going to be on that. I've been there, done that and all of this, and the older woman, you know.
Speaker 2:But you're older men. Like you guys lose energy. Not to say I'm not, I'm not. You guys lose energy as well, but it's not about energy.
Speaker 1:25 years and 35 years, I hear giving us it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not an energy thing, it's not an energy thing.
Speaker 2:It's an energy thing for you guys too. So what is it then?
Speaker 1:It's a. It's a. Okay. This is new to her. It's not a. Been there, done that. It's like-.
Speaker 3:So you mean she's more open to do different things? Like doing it in a car, doing it on a chandelier swinging it on a chandelier. That type of thing. Is that what you mean? She's more fun.
Speaker 1:She has less mileage on her. Wow, you know you go to a lot, you don't oh?
Speaker 3:you mean she's wait? Wow, no, don't get it twisted. You got younger women that got more mileage.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. They been out there. I mean, it's like you know she's more like a.
Speaker 1:You know, like with the, the, the, the caramie, that could get like a, you know, 200,000 miles on it, you know.
Speaker 3:Wow, willing it back in right, it's car metaphor okay, oh shit, I'm trying to stay Shit, I don't know, let me check. Take my car to the shop. Wait you talking, I gotta make sure I'm straight. Yeah, baby, oh man, but I-.
Speaker 2:I learned a lot about him, you know, and made me want to listen to his music. But I was listening to Jamaican DJ the other day and he was just saying like how much of Rob Bonny's songs do the DJ? Did Jamaican DJs play at a party? Not much, no.
Speaker 1:Probably on the older set.
Speaker 2:And right, even in the older sets. And do you think Bob Marley would be happy with today's radio music?
Speaker 1:No, no, it's tri-.
Speaker 2:I'm not gonna say it's tri-ass and I'm becoming for me, but what?
Speaker 3:he's saying he was more of an activist as well as a singer.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly All of that stuff and talking about like fighting your man and this, that and that, that wasn't his music. His music was. If you listen to it, it's more, you know conscious more Right Right Activism.
Speaker 1:It's music. Man, that's some real good stuff right there, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, music. I was just saying music is great for my own soul, so Right. And also music can be great for, like sometimes, when I'm in the space of saying, you know, I'm not trying to be in a relationship and I'm trying to fall back Some music I can't listen to, I'm like, oh you know what, that might not, that might take me to a place. Right so music has a huge power.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it could torture you too. It could torture you Exactly. It happened to me before. Exactly, I ain't gonna say the song, but it happened to me. Like yo, this thing is not. I don't like this song.
Speaker 2:Some songs take you back somewhere.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah they're too nostalgic. Some songs I'm like.
Speaker 2:I don't even want that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the person Right this isn't a good place.
Speaker 1:This is a good time to create.
Speaker 2:This is a nice area of my life right here.
Speaker 1:No, yes please don't put this in the place.
Speaker 2:And music too is especially in. I mean, go to parties, go to these brunches, start drinking and music to sound. I like music, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3:Like you know, I mean, contrary to what others might think, victoria Monet is my affirmation on my mama.
Speaker 1:I know she told them all sex and some of the lyrics.
Speaker 3:But you know, I look fly, I look good. That part of the lyrics, that's my motivation, that's my affirmation. Someone is so music can affirm you too, you're right.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I worry.
Speaker 3:And eat the meat and spit out the bones, you know. So, right, right, right. That's what I do with that one Right.
Speaker 1:I'm like mama, okay, but that's the affirmation for me.
Speaker 3:Okay so it could be, it could have its good place in this. You gotta know you know, once they muted R Kelly, I was like dang.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm even feel comfortable listening to Tam.
Speaker 3:I was like dang Step in the name of love, not at a wedding I had to get used to that yes. But then I like songs like don't put me out, don't put me you know songs like that. That was like sort of like women's anthems back in the days, for you know when men do cruddy stuff.
Speaker 2:But you know what I realized too, and I was like wow, you know how spiritual Lauren Hill is. Yes, she won it, I think she. So they met. They were when I was in the Roan Han on Drink Champs. I think they went in the studio together and they hooked up. I mean you know they ended or whatever the case may be. I know, lauren, she probably, like I, was one to have a kid with a Molly. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:I love listening to him on something and he Drink Champs. I don't know what it was. It was Drink Champs or something that it was like a clip and he really gave her such accolades. He was like she's a beautiful person, right. Did you see that clip.
Speaker 2:He was just like she's a beautiful mother to his children.
Speaker 3:He had, like, nothing negative to say and it seemed very authentic.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean when you're on Champion's, like she is a very beautiful person, Five kids right Together. She was a great mother to his kids. I love that he didn't have any like maybe mama kind of negative thing to say.
Speaker 2:Right, right, even though like he had history. But yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but the only bad thing is that yeah, but the only thing about it is that the only thing that is is that stopped her from doing another classic album.
Speaker 2:Did it the Hurt, you see the Hurt that he gave her.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no. I've never heard no new music from her.
Speaker 3:After she had kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she never had nothing else.
Speaker 2:She went through a lot. She went through the tax.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, she went through her label and he broke her heart.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he broke her heart. I don't know if that was it. Maybe he had other things, but so I learned a lot and I want to see. I still want to see the movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want to see the movie. I want to see it. I'm going to see it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to see it.
Speaker 1:Because I actually a friend of mine, a friend Sterling, he was just posted. He said oh, never mind people say about the actor, the movie was good to me Okay, so we got to agree.
Speaker 2:We're all going to go see Bar Mali.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, we're going to go see Bar Mali.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've been cheating, trying to watch YouTube, but I'm going to go see it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like learning about him. I just I got more and more interested and I said I'm in, I want to go see, I want to go see.
Speaker 3:I think I'm interested more and see the movie is what I see they say depicts more about less of the activism part of his life, but more about the family the family and the women and the kids. So I really want to learn more about his activism because he was a disruptor and I feel like I'm a disruptor. Okay, I'm a disruptor. So that's what I'm attracted to about his story. It's a big charge. Disruptor. Yeah, you're not well liked. Yeah, it's a lonely road.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fbi tapping into your phone.
Speaker 3:I hope not. I ain't disrupting that space. Fbi is a mofo.
Speaker 2:And Martin Luther King died. They gave Corretta Scott King on his infidelity tapes.
Speaker 3:Like he had all that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like he was cheating, and we want you to listen to all that there.
Speaker 1:They have a piece of work, but Vicious.
Speaker 3:What happened to love, though, like I, just I want to be in love.
Speaker 1:I've been told, you know that song, love, don't live here.
Speaker 3:You know like. It's not about a financial gain, it's not about what we're getting. Except when I look across the table from you 50 years from now, I still like you. Yeah, Where's that Like? Maybe I watch TV love stories.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no. Those exist. Like they exist. You have a few. I forgot their names 42 year old marriages and. I don't know.
Speaker 3:That's the life. I think maybe I've been a little jaded about dad. May not have been a cheater or may have, but I think I grew up in a house where I didn't see that be a dynamic. So in my mind as a child and grown into a woman, I feel like monogamy could exist.
Speaker 2:It can exist. It can exist.
Speaker 1:It can exist if you know what I mean. You know what they say, comply what about you.
Speaker 3:You know I'm a falling line, falling line.
Speaker 1:It could happen if you all just chill out.
Speaker 2:Chill out Really back in, I believe. I like to see that too. I like to see couples grow together and finish each other's sentences, and so I like to see it.
Speaker 1:On 70. That's old school. No I mean it could work. It could work yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean, you get ready to get married? Tell me how.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm saying it's working for me and I'm telling you, the only way it works to me is you got to avoid people and places. Okay, you know, you can't certain temptations. You can't like my boys be trying to get me to go to DR. No, I'm not going Okay. I'm not going to go, and then I'm not going to be the one doing nothing. The next thing you know, you're going to be laughing at me, or y'all try to send chicks to me.
Speaker 3:You know, so it's like Discipline, yeah, I mean discipline to stay away.
Speaker 1:You might, you know, you say you fall short, go there and then next you know showtime.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:All right, all right, but that's why Put yourself in no circumstance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't do it.
Speaker 2:So what makes you I think I asked you this before so what makes you say hey, I'm not doing that anymore?
Speaker 1:I'm my experience, man, it's like you know, just just like how I quit alcohol is like I overstayed my welcome. Okay, Okay, it's nothing else for me to get out of that. I have my daughter and I'm not like, I'm not unhappy, so it's like you know, and the thing about it, you didn't, you don't even need to be unhappy to do it.
Speaker 3:Men don't need it, that's right.
Speaker 1:You don't need it, you know women need to be unhappy to do it Frepoint. Oh yeah, oh yeah. That's a lusty little trend, You're just a horse, you're just a gang club.
Speaker 2:You're just a scarlet letter in the building.
Speaker 3:You're Jezebel.
Speaker 2:All right, so you're in closing. In closing.
Speaker 1:Okay, before we close, you know, I'd like to send a resting piece to our friend, our friend. We lost a good, a good friend, right.
Speaker 2:Sleeping.
Speaker 1:Peaks.
Speaker 3:Nigel, my boy, nigel man.
Speaker 1:I mean good friend, I knew him forever. Wow, I got different stories. I remember one story I could tell you about. One day he said yo, my yo, come with me to this party. It's a day party. You know, we got twisted, he's getting twisted, we wind up going to three parties. Three parties.
Speaker 2:Not planned.
Speaker 1:No, he knew it but I didn't know it was this come. You know he was going with him and he's just got wasted and it's had time of our life. I still remember we wind up the last party we was at. We wind up like in a golf club. Golf, golf, golf club thing. Wow, I was like I think it was on a flat bus, it was somewhere, it was down there, but I think like it's somewhere over there. Yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 2:I've never seen this. I'm like. I'm like one person on my life.
Speaker 1:And I'm like the only thing I could say is that this is a good brother and we lost a real one. This one right here is like it hit real close. You know what I mean? I just speak every day, but it's always. Every time we spoke was love, love, love.
Speaker 3:I'm sending you love to your grief. Yeah, your grief don't have a time limit, so I'm definitely sending you love.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you sleep in peace, nigel.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Sleep in peace.
Speaker 3:He has a GoFundMe too.
Speaker 2:Yes, I mean because it's going to air this weekend, so it's still going. So the GoFundMe is on Facebook.
Speaker 3:Hold on, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Thanks.
Speaker 3:Yes, he's from Flatbush.
Speaker 2:Flatbush is definitely grieving because the day it happened it just the post wouldn't stop. So he was one of those.
Speaker 1:He's a major guy. He's a major guy on the outside and on this Flatbush.
Speaker 2:Like you know, he's loved.
Speaker 1:No bad words about it.
Speaker 2:So the GoFundMe is Nigel N-I-G-E-L Gail, organized by his daughter, Ariane Gail. Ariane Gail, G-A-Y-L-E. So go ahead and hit that GoFundMe.
Speaker 1:Yes, man, even it's $5, $10, just do what you can, something.
Speaker 2:Help the family out. You know, if you don't Together, we win. Together we win, together we win.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
Speaker 2:So positive words going out.
Speaker 1:Yes, you know. They say you know, if you knew better, you'd do better right. Sometimes, you know, sometimes I don't really be the truth.
Speaker 3:Thank you. I was like hoping you agree with my perspective. I was like I don't want to tell this man I don't agree with it.
Speaker 1:No, I totally agree with that. Yeah, you know, but you just try to be the best version of you, just be who you are and just try to. You know, take that to the next level. You know, and a lot of people out there. You need to start Like, if you have a skill you know, reach and teach. You know our children, not just only your children reach and teach, yeah.
Speaker 3:My clothes. My clothes and remarks would be that my life is about having experiences, and this has been a great one, and you had mentioned that your friend had just passed away and it just always makes me reflect on. Life is short. Make sure you have as many experiences as you can so you have as many memories as you can and a lot of times we are living to die and not living to live. So this has been a great experience and it reminds me that I'm living, that life life's, for God is God.
Speaker 2:So okay. I like that life is life and God is.
Speaker 2:God all the time. So I just wanted to. I found this quote this week. It came to me like twice, so I said you know what? I'm going to use it and close my remarks. So it goes like this is don't ignore your passions, don't ignore your potential, don't ignore your purpose. You are more than capable. It is safe to try, and my, my expert pastor used to say do it scared. So do it scared, you know. And thanks for challenging me and my to revisit. So we're going to hold each other accountable to finish what we started.
Speaker 1:Right, I love it. I'll try. I'm going to hold you accountable because you know I got to each other accountable. Yes, you're going to hold us.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm going to circle back.
Speaker 3:I'm going to circle back, like okay, it's been 90 days, which I love to do it.
Speaker 2:It's been three months now.
Speaker 3:I think it's going to happen faster than I feel like y'all going to really connect with the catalyst that we need the battery and our backs.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, everyone. Have a good week on purpose.
Speaker 1:And this is the your opinion.
Speaker 2:There's a matter which?
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